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CLIFF WATSON |
Clubs Great Britain, St Helens,
Cronulla Sutherland |
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Living in the Illawarra District south of Sutherland
Shire, Sydney, NSW, Australia.(thanks Tom of Poland)
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Cliff Watson pictures
- there are a few from the great St Helens website
http://www.saints.org.uk
it is well worth a visit - has a vault full of facts
and pics about all players that have doned the red
v. And some pics Quigs has acquired. |
St Helens. |
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24/01/2006 |
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Big Cliffy about to take on Eric Simms |
Cliff Watson and Frank Myler GB 1970 Tour |
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1967 Tommy
Bishop (right) and Ray French celebrate Cliff Watson's
try |
Cliff and Len Killeen carrying the Spoils
after the 1966 Cup victory. |
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Alex Murphy on Cliff's shoulder - St Helens
team celebrate 1966 Cup Final |
After the 73 Grand Final. L -> R Cliff
Watson, Ken Maddison, Graeme Bowen, Tommy Bishop and Bob
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Left - Great Britain's Ashes Winning 1970 Lions (back row) M
Reilly, D Robinsod, A Smith, T Price, J Laughton,
J Thompson, C Hesketh. (third row) B Seabourne,
K Hepworth, J Ward, A Hardisty, D Edwards, P Flanagan,
R Millward. (Second
Row) D Chiswell, B Irvine, C Sullivan, T Fisher,
M Shoebottom, S Hynes. (front row) R Dutton,
D Hartley, J Harding (Manager)
F Myler (Captain), T Whitely(Manager) P Lowe, C
Watson. |
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Rival Props Cliff
Watson and Jim Morgan exchange blows in the first
test Brisbane 1970, a game that was to be called the Battle
of Brisbane, Mal Reilly is
involved also, with Artie
Beetson about to enter the fray. |
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Burly English Prop Cliff Watson runs
into trouble during the 1966 Tour Match NSW -v- Great
Britain at the SCG. Here he is tackled by Dick Thornett
with Kevin Ryan lending support. |
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Big Cliff playing for the Sharks.
left - Caption with original picture
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Boys will be boys. All hell breaks loose as Cliff
Watson and Peter Peters clash in the 1973
grand final. Incident instigator, Cronulla
captain Tommy Bishop, second from right, seems to be looking
for a place to hide.
- thanks Jason Buffier
Players involved from left to right
John O'Neill,
Manly, Greg Pearce Sharks, Peter Peters Manly, Cliff
Watson, Keith Page Ref, Warren Fischer, Tommy
Bishop and Bob Wear
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CRONULLA SUTHERLAND DREAMTEAM ANNOUNCED July 2006
Fullback ... David Peachey
Winger ... Mat Rogers
Centre ... Steve
Rogers
Centre ... Andrew Ettingshausen
Winger ... Ray Corcoran
5/8 ... Chris Wellman
Half ... Tommy
Bishop
Lock ... Greg Pierce
S/r ... Gavin
Miller
S/R ... Ken Maddison
Prop ... Cliff
Watson
Prop ... Jason Stevens
Hooker ... Ron Turner
Reserve .... Dane
Sorensen
Reserve ... Steve
Kneen
Reserve ... Brett Kimmorley
Reserve ... Mark McGaw
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Part of an extract reporting
the official function |
Pre Sydney Test Match
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QUOTE FROM CLIFF ON HOW TO BEAT THE AUSSIES...............
In July 2002 the Rugby League Boards from both hemispheres gathered
92 former internationals as part of the promotion of the return
to Australia - Lions Test Matches.
Part of the night included film presentation and speeches from
different former great players.
It was reported that Cliff Watson gave the audience his simple
idea of how to beat the Aussies just after the audience had
finished applauding old newsreel of his assorted misdemeanours
and sendings-off.
"There is only one way to beat the Australians,"
Watson said, "You have got to get in there and thump them.
If you let them run at you, they'll annihilate you. It's always
been the same; if you belt them, they don't like it."
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Rosco, Tumbi Tumbi NSW |
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I was at the 1973 grand final between Manly and
Sharks. 80 minutes of mayhem. Bishop hitting and kicking anything
that
moved and then hiding behind Cliffy Watson.
Manly had Randall, O'neill and Reilly. |
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Geoff Appleton, St Helens |
St Helens |
1960's |
25/01/2006 |
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I was brought up in a pub in st helens and
cliff watson was a dray man for greenall whitley brewery.
He very often used to deliver the beer, he was a big fella and
strong which they had to be back then.
If anyone ever speaks to him ask him if he remembers the new
inn in peasley cross in st helens.
He's clipped me round the ear more than once for being cheeky,
nice bloke though.
Geoff Appleton St Helens |
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Cliff Watson |
Sharks, St Helens, Great
Britain |
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17/03/2006 |
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I never wore a mouthgard... hated them... too
uncomfortable and, besides, you couldn't abuse the referee.
- Cliff Watson |
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Cliff Watson on Tommy
Bishop's training methods |
Sharks |
1971 |
17/03/2006 |
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I said to him "I came here to play football,
not run in a bloody Melbourne Cup."
- Cliff Watson |
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Tommy Bishop on Cliff
Watson's 1973 Grand Final warm up |
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1973 |
17/03/2006 |
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There was Cliffy leaning against the post.
I went over and asked. "What's going on Cliff?" He
said: "It's all right... it's all right. They're not playing
yet."
- Tommy Bishop |
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Cliff Watson on his
injuries over the years |
Cronulla, St helens,
Great Britain |
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17/03/2006 |
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I've had 12 broken noses, two broken jaws,
five broken arms, four rib cartilages, four broken ribs...
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Round 2, 1972, Cliff
Watson breaks his jaw. |
Sharks |
1972 |
17/03/2006 |
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Cliff Watson, the former Great Britain Tesp Prop, had his jaw broken in two places while playing for Cronulla Sharks in a 5 - 2 loss to Penrith at Endeavour Field.
The tough Englishman finished the half out and nonchalantly
told officials at half-time "I think you'd better get a replacement.
There's no risk my jaw is broken."
Just before leaving for the hospital, Watson said to the man who was taking him to hospital; "Can you wait while I whip up and tell the wife I won't be home for tea."
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Frank Sephton, St Helens |
St Helens |
1970 |
28/03/2006 |
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I worked at the Greenalls Brewery in St Helens when
Cliff Watson was a drayman. What strength, he could lift a barrell of
ale, no problem.
Everyone wanted to work in Cliffs team, he did the
heavy work .
In those days he never drank or smoked, but on his last visit
to Saints a couple of years ago i think he had downed a few tinnies..
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worked on the bottling stores loading stage, with a deaf and dumb lad,
who was allways winding Cliff up, but the giant took it in good heart.
Hope one day Cliff sees this, he is sure to remember.
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courtesy of Tony Adams great book
The Hitmen - A tribute to League's tough guys.
"The '73 Grand Final against Cronulla was boots and all.
Of all the grand finals I played in, that's the one people always
ask me about. It's the game they all remember. And it's not
because of the quality of the football; it wasn't a great game
as such. They remember it because it was such a rugged affair.
"At one stage their little halfback Tommy
Bishop, who was a cheeky bludger, kicked me in
the shins. I started chasing him but he ran and hid behind big
Cliff Watson.
I nearly caught up with him a few times, but he was too slippery.
Games like that were hard, but they were great to play in. You
knew what was required in those days - you had to get over your
opposite front rower. And while it was tough, not too many players
got badly hurt. The hard stuff was all part of the game and
you accepted it."
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Andy, Ireland |
Cronulla Sutherland |
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26/5/2006 |
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Hope Cliff Watson is reading some of this and
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to say top of the morning to yah!
A hard man? sure!
A hero? absolutely!
The kind of guy that when the chips are down (and they often
can be as a back packer) he gave you the strength to just keep
going and, that things can always be worse.
Thanks for everything you did for me mate.
Andy
Bailey (irish sparks at vinnys).
p.s. hope you enjoyed the whiskey!!!!!
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Roy Harrison, Manly |
Manly Warringah |
1970 |
05/08/2006 |
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AT THE 1970 AUS V GB FINAL AT HEADINGLY LEEDS ...........MY HARDEST MAN MEMORY IS............ARTIE BEETSON AND CLIFF WATSON HAVING BEEN SENT OFF FOR FIGHTING..............WATCHING THEM WALKING OFF.STILL HAVING A GO AT EACH OTHER................THAT WAS REAL RUGBY LEAGUE...........NOT THE PROTECTED P/C PLAYERS WE SEE TODAY.........
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Prop John Wittenburg, playing in his first
Test, was flattened by British front-rower Brian Edgar early
in the match, Australian centre Graeme
Langlands laid out little English halfback
Tommy Bishop with a copybook "coat-hanger",
Dick Thornett
and Billy Smith
tag-teamed on British forward Jim Mantle, and former Queenslander
Noel "Ned" Kelly
and fearsome Englishman Cliff
Watson fought a running battle.
From Memorable Match
No31- click here to read more.
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Memories of Cliffs encounter
with Jim Morgan |
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July 6, 1970 |
27/11/2006 |
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First Test, Lang Park, July 6, 1970
Sydney garbo Jim Morgan scored twice in the first Test of the
1970 tour but it is not for the tries that he is most remembered.

BATTERED hero . . . Jim Morgan after the second Battle of Brisbane. He enjoyed scoring two tries.
It is the photo of him after the match, his face covered
in blood and his nose a flattened pulp after he was head-butted
by Great Britain forward Cliff Watson.
The match was the second to earn the title "The Battle
of Brisbane" and this time Australia won the game, 37-15,
although the Englishmen could be said to have won the
fight.
The set-to between Morgan and Watson broke out late in
the first half. After an all-in brawl had subsided the
two stood holding each other's jerseys.
Morgan attempted a head-butt and Watson replied with interest.
When Watson stayed in Australia after a stint with Cronulla
in the early 1970s the two men became close friends but
Morgan, who died while swimming at the Gold Coast last
year, always felt he had the last laugh.
As he said after the match: "They can break my nose in
any Test as long as I can still score two tries."
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Neville, Grays Point, Australia, |
SOUTH SYDNEY RABBITOHS |
1970 |
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A few years back Cliff Watson was a customer of mine.
Used to come in and drink Gin and Tonic. Pretty quiet bloke really.
However one day I had been watching a replay of the infamous test match
in Brisbane, where Cliff had landed the Liverpool Kiss in Jimmy Morgan
face. That night big Cliff came in and he order his drink and whilst
preparing it mentioned to him that I had seen his melon on TV that day
and said'Poor old Jimmy Morgan.'
With that a complete change came over him and you could see the anger
rising an at incredible rate to a point where I though he was going to
jump the bar and belt me. He stood and glared at me for at least a
minute without saying a word. Even at his age it was still pretty scary,
as he is a huge man. He took his drink, slammed his money on the bar
and walked away.
Even the guy working with me that night commented after he had left
that he though Watson was going to belt me. He was pretty concerned as
well. It really hit a raw nerve with him although I wasn't trying to
offend him in any way.
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Kevin Blackwell, England |
Hull Kingston Rovers |
1963 |
15/02/2007 |
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The 1st test series I remember was as a small
boy reading about the 1962 series.
1963 was the first series I saw on TV.
The 1st test was played at Wembley, but only highlights were
shown on TV, although I think Reg Gasnier scored 3 tries.
The match at Swinton was the first test I saw live.
It left an indelible imprint on me, which remains to this day.
Australia have never played better in my opinion.
Langlands, Irvine,
Gasnier,
Raper
would walk into any greatest team that I could think of.
The abiding memories are of Ken Irvine's chase down of Neil
Fox, with John Stopford scoring a try.
But watching Australia that day was like watching the Harlem
Globetrotters.
Raper never played better. Chang wasn't far behind. Still the
best team I've ever seen.
As memorable was the 3rd test (Battle of Headingley) when the
fists flew. Noel Kelly
was indeed a very hard man. A scrum broke up and he delivered
a couple of beauties on one of the English props.
Cliff Watson
got sent off in the same game.
I have highlights of the 63 Tour on DVD and it's a prized possession.
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